Poll: Bloomfield Council Looks to Curb Commercial Vehicle Parking
Do you think the township should pass a law preventing businesses from parking their commercial trucks and vehicles overnight in town?
The Bloomfield Council will look curb commercial vehicle parking next week.
The council will consider banning all overnight parking for vehicles with commercial license plates throughout the township at the upcoming council meeting on Jan. 22.
There are lots of business trucks parking on the streets overnight, said township attorney Brian Aloia at the council conference on Tuesday, which is preventing residents with non-commercial cars from parking near their homes.
The council also said the problem has been brought up by residents in particular parts of town.
The proposal will come to the council as an ordinance next, and will need to be passed at two separate council meetings.
What do you think, Bloomfield? Should commercial vehicles be banned from overnight parking? Vote now in the Patch poll below!
jfc
11:51 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I have a better idea. Allow overnight parking for commercial vehicles pay a PERMIT FEE based upon the size/weight of the vehicle and limit the amount of vehicles to a block. A nice big fat hefty fee since this town needs all the money it can get its hands on.
Diane Mitchell
6:48 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Who cares if a commercial vehicle is parked on the street over night! Take up a cause that affects peoples lives and someone actually cares about!
Concerned parent
9:59 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
The problem is will it be reinforced? The curbs around my block are painted yellow cars constantly park at the yellow curbs .. No citations are being issued as it is!!
Mark Remollino
10:38 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Statistically, more vehicles on the street at night leads to more crime, which leads to lower quality of life and lower real estate value; remediating this is a very worthwhile end to pursue if you ask me. Inviting the commercial vehicles to park somewhere and pay is a good, revenue generating idea, but not among residential streets. Perhaps in a new commercial lots towards Hartz Mountain? As far as enforcement goes, Concerned Parent, you're absolutely correct, we need to fund a "pays-for-itself" enforcement team to ticket and tow every vehicle in violation, as well as to address the many, other ordinances which are going unenforced. Every day that goes buy we're missing out on revenue. In the last 30 years, Bloomfield has allowed - either by rubber-stamped variance or negligence of enforcement - literally hundreds of heavy or commercial vehicles to park in backyards, on the street, and in public lots where they simply do not belong. To those of you who voted for "No", I don't think you've really thought through the long term effects of not addressing the situation. If you are interested in specific examples of how this currently negatively affects your house value let me know.
Meghan Collins
10:49 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Yes, it matters. I would love to see a ban. This is a way to force people to use their driveways for commercial vehicles or to force employers to deal with where to park their vehicles. We have a huge problem in Watsessing Heights of cab companies, contractors and even transport companies parking multiple commercial vehicles on the streets. Taking up spaces that should be for home owners and creating a down trodden look to the neighborhood. I am not looking to decrease the value of my home and I am glad that the counsel is looking at ways to improve the value of our homes and just plain life in Bloomfield.
jfc
10:53 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Just from a few comments from concerned citizens everyone agrees on one thing: PERMIT FEES. For instance, on Berkeley Avenue we have a florist who's trucks you NEVER see parked on the street, a former landscaper who thought he OWNED the street, complete with his own personal parking cones, and yet various commercial plated vehicles that come and go from time to time.
My biggest scratch you head moment is some home owners have 3 or more vehicles, a gigantic driveway or paved backyard, yet park their cars all over the neighborhood, never in front of their own house.
Mark Remollino
11:26 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Meghan, jfc: Like.
Patch: Integrate comments with Facebook, not just the login.
Dboc
11:26 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I have to come back to this, because if anyone who add their comments think for a moment, they need to make a delivery rented a commercial truck and had to park on the street over night, shouldn't you get a pass for just keeping the truck on the street overnight if you were relocating to a home or apt you just got or moving out from a home or apt you are vacating?
I remember I got a pass from E Rutherford when I was moving out, but when I moved to N Arlington the cops nailed me for parking overnight when I moved there, then had the heart to call my home for donations several times, I said nicely, " I paid you already with the $88 check for the overnight parking commercial vehicle fine", never got a call from them since.
I guess that was a donation that was worth it's wait in gold.
Mark Remollino
11:57 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Dboc: Thanks for your comment. Any process should have a way of fairly handling exceptions. In some towns, like Glen Ridge and Bloomfield, you can call the Police station to alert them that you have a visitor or extenuating circumstance. In North Arlington you had a negative experience; they might handle their exceptions similarly. Albeit emotionally frustrating to, a singular exception does not warrant not pursing the investigation of a potentially beneficial change in law that stands to improve your overall quality life.
Mimi Michalski
12:32 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I agree wholeheartedly with this ban. In the south end of town there are many houses that have no driveways and need the street space for parking their own vehicles. Commercial vehicles need to be accommodated elsewhere. If I agree there must be exceptions for someone who has rented a truck temporarily or if they need to park for just one night for some reason. The biggest issue, as someone else mentioned, is enforcement. We live on the border of East Orange, which forbids parking overnight on the street, period. Bloomfield instituted permit parking only for a few blocks in from EO in order to prevent EO residents from just parking their cars on our side of the town boundary. We have found that if this is happening despite the requirement for a Bloomfield permit, calling the police usually results in the offending car being ticketed.
Mimi Michalski
12:33 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Sorry, meant to say "I agree there must be exceptions..."
Pete Mock
1:07 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I agree that this is a problem, and should be dealt with.
However, I'm still more concerned about pedestrian safety, increased levels of traffic, and the unchecked speeding that is a problem everywhere in town. I thought after the numerous pedestrian deaths, and the tragic accident that took the life of one of our kids, that the council would have some proposals to address those issues first.
Jr
1:12 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I agree but also disagree. I have a company truck that has commercial plates on them so where would you like me to park? It is a Chevy Tahoe with no markings on it and the only way of knowing it is for commercial use is by looking at the licence plates.When I park on the street, most of the time, it is right next to another Chevy Tahoe that a neighbor owns as his personal truck. Just because mine has commercial plates on them and the other one doesn't, why should I not be allowed to park on the street near my house but the other truck can? Yes I do agree commercial vans and other larger vehicles shouldn't be on the street but there should be some exceptions to the rule as well.
jfc
1:36 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Unfortunately there is "no in between" in regards to a commercial plate. It is what is. If it's a personal commercial plate on a vehicle there is no reason why it can't be parked on your own property or parked on the commercial property instead. Just like the GSP, no commercial vehicles are permitted on it. The state troopers make no exceptions.
Mark Remollino
1:46 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
jfc: You mean "commercial vehicles" belong on commercial property, and personal vehicles on residential driveways, right? Just checkin. Thanks.
Mark Remollino
1:45 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Jr: That's a totally healthy viewpoint and a valid concern. You want a beneficial ordinance that will be fair. The "devil is in the details" and individuals like yourself need to be represented when such an ordinance is drafted. As for the logic of it, vehicles used for commercial business purposes are inside the scope of the proposed ordinance because they are not personal vehicles. For my own background, what are the benefits of a commercial designation? Is it required of your type of business or did you do voluntarily? What Ward or Section do you live in? Thanks for the response!
jfc
2:06 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The gentleman that lives (rents) next to me brings home a big commercial van every day. By the time evening rolls around he's parked it in the driveway off the street. He's even courteous to remove it off the street during the winter when there's snow on the ground so the plows can do their job. Not like some of the people on my block. If the rule/law/ordinance is no commercial vehicles are allowed to park on the streets overnight, that's what it is. Residents can park on the street whether they have a driveway or not.
lori monaco
3:50 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
i think a comercial van is ok to park, it is no bigger than a mini van , why should you penalize a small business owner from parking his vehicle in his driveway ESPECIALLY if he a a homeowner and pays ridiculously high property taxes.
Mimi Michalski
3:56 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I believe actually if you have commercial plates you are supposed to have marking on the truck; at least that is what Councilwoman Dunigan stated Monday night.
Jr
4:02 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Mark, I am in sales and have to commute to NYC often for meetings or to drop off supplies to the workers. Certain areas of NYC, the only way to park is by having commercial plates because it is cheaper for a company to pay for them instead of putting the vehicles in lots 10 times a day. To answer your other question, I live in the middle of town on a quiet side street near the 7-11 on Broad St.
Mark Remollino
4:51 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Interesting and wacky. The borderline cases will definitely require more thought and consideration. Do you own the vehicle or does your company? Unfortunately, "because it's cheaper for my company" isn't a very compelling case for a review board, especially if it's not a small business you own. Thanks for the info.
Something we haven't really discussed is the number of vehicles. For instance, if you have 1 light van, maybe parking it on your driveway is okay, despite "commercial" plates, but the "small business owners" who have 5 and 6 trucks on the street shouldn't be allowed to consume the entire sidewalk space, even if they don't have commercial plates.
I can think of at least 2 instances of this in my immediate area; illegal or not, it's definitely not fair to other homeowners and isn't a positive factor when trying to sell their home.
Geoff Gove
5:44 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Interesting to see 21 comments and 11 votes. Also interesting to see how many residents with empty driveways still park on the street.
Pat Collins
6:12 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
This would be great, though parking laws already in effect are barely enforced.
scott didomenico
11:58 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
thats exactly right.They should better enforce the town ordinance on the books and then see what problems are still needed to be addressed
Pork Roll
1:09 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
<i>Statistically, more vehicles on the street at night leads to more crime</i>
And what statistics suggest this relationship? I find it difficult to accept that claim at face value.
Yes, local businesses should not be parking multiple vehicles on the street to the detriment of residents. However, there may be residents who must bring a commercial vehicle home with them overnight because they are tradespeople, own a small business, or are assigned the vehicle by their employer, but they have no off-street parking available to them.
Careful consideration needs to be given to avoid unfairly penalizing Bloomfield residents who are simply trying to make a living.
Mark Remollino
5:16 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Pork Roll,
I agree that people with no off street parking should have alternatives. Heck, I'm one of them. Due to the age of my house, I simply have no driveway. That's not the problem requiring a solution at this point however. What compromises residents' safety and quality of life is the fact that individuals DO have off street parking, sometimes in excess, e.g., having a 4+ car driveway AND a 2-4 car garage but parking on street anyway due to their own convenience. Check Washington St., Thomas St., Spruce St. and other locations bordering the old train tracks. I think you'll really be surprised with what you find.
As for "more cars on the street meaning more parking", I've seen many reports, studies, and anecdotes. While I've seen better scientific studies, here are a couple related stories I was able to find with a quick Google search:
http://www.popcenter.org/problems/parking_garage_theft/PDFs/webb.pdf
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2011/11/no_parking_slows_rockwood_crim.html
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/16/sign-of-the-crimes-detroit-cops-ban-cars-from-parking-in-high-crime-areas/
If you're still very skeptical, I'd ask you to simply talk to individuals who live in "higher crime" areas of Bloomfield, get their take, observe what the parking situation is like, or ask a police officer what % of crimes are launched from a vehicle.
The JT Murdoch bandits didn't run home, they sped off in a car and parked it nearby!
Thanks!
Mark Remollino
5:26 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I found this read interesting too, as it related to parking even in garages.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/cptedpkg.pdf
The premise of most literature I'm finding online is "cars are hiding spots", but it also makes sense that they convey criminals to areas they wouldn't normally be in (check the Police Blotter for how many non-Bloomfield residents commit crimes in Bloomfield on a weekly basis, as well as act as getaway vehicles ("...the criminal fled in the direction of Orange St."). Lastly, let's not forget that vehicular break-ins, carjackings (there's an on-going investigation in Bloomfield right now) and outright car thefts are also more likely from the street as opposed to your driveway.
Thanks again. - Mark